I ended up getting these for free many years ago after titan messed up my order and just gave me the whole cart for free. I've tried to make them work 50 different ways, pulling them out every 8-12 months to try again. The issue is they are heavy and a huge pain to get into place. And if I do just keep them set up on my rack then they are taking up the upright. There's really no way to fix jammer arms even with all of the million mods. Currently I have these set up on my second rack and using them for leg press, its not a bad movement at all, especially with bands added, but no way would I put these on my main rack and no way I recommend them.
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