I think these are discontinued, but I really like these plates. The rotational grips are awesome and make holding these easy and in a pinch I have used them for cardio simply by holding the handles and going up some stairs. They are slightly thicker than an average iron plate, so they take up more room on the sleeve. I only have two real gripes, on deadlifts the recessed area of the plate where the handles are gets very annoying, and the hub is slightly recessed with a protrusion of rubber around it that makes my rogue USA collars really annoying on these. Other collars like my keppi open collars do a good job. If you can find these used for the right price you can't go wrong with these.
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